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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides noting the small format problem above,  &lt;i&gt;Vafthrúdinismál&lt;/i&gt; and Snorre&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Gylfaginning&lt;/i&gt; was the intention, I also wanted to add that having the male Freyr as fertility god was likely another break with older mythology which may have had fertility and/or spring &quot;godesses&quot;. (I don&#039;t think the history is clear on this point, perhaps showing how new mythology actively suppresses older ones.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides noting the small format problem above,  <i>Vafthrúdinismál</i> and Snorre&#8217;s <i>Gylfaginning</i> was the intention, I also wanted to add that having the male Freyr as fertility god was likely another break with older mythology which may have had fertility and/or spring &#8220;godesses&#8221;. (I don&#8217;t think the history is clear on this point, perhaps showing how new mythology actively suppresses older ones.)</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A belated thanks for explaining the observational difficulties involved.

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Freyr
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Likely wrong and an especially bad example of sun worship. &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.se/books?id=KlT7tv3eMSwC&amp;pg=PA99&amp;lpg=PA99&amp;dq=aesir+belief+sun&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=scOGiMqr5a&amp;sig=jo55DwvG8L-uPtqDgyZ0ON8qskg&amp;hl=sv&amp;ei=80GmSvThINqJsAbGreTSBA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=5#v=onepage&amp;q=sun&amp;f=false&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aesir belief wasn&#039;t particularly interested in the sun and seldom personified it, as opposed to earlier mythology.&lt;/a&gt; 

After all, their creation belief is refreshingly simple:

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According to the Prose Edda, Odin, the first and most powerful of the Aesir, was a son of a giant (Bor) and a giantess (Bestla), who, along with his brothers Ve and Vili, cast down the terrible frost giant Ymir. From his corpse, the three created the cosmos, transmuting his various body parts into sky, seas, and land:

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    From Ymir&#039;s flesh, the brothers made the earth, and from his shattered bones and teeth they made the rocks and stones. From Ymir&#039;s blood, they made the rivers and lakes. Ymir&#039;s skull was made into the sky, secured at four points by four dwarfs named Nordi, Sudri, Austri, and Westri (North, South, East, and West). And from Ymir&#039;s brains, they shaped the clouds and Ymir&#039;s eyebrows became Midgard, the place where men now dwell.[12]
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In this account, Odin and his brothers are also attributed with creating mankind from hollow logs. In doing so, Odin first gave them breath and life; Vili gave them brains and feelings; and Ve gave them hearing and sight. The first man was named Ask and the first woman was Embla, and from them all families of mankind are descended. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Odin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New World Encyclopedia&lt;/a&gt;]
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The norse stories that named the sun was &lt;i&gt;Vafthrúdinismál and Snorre&#039;s &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;Gylfaginning&lt;/i&gt;. [See the first link.] In both, &lt;i&gt;Mundilfaeri&lt;/i&gt; had the &quot;daughter&quot; Sól and the &quot;son&quot; Máni. (Sun respectively Moon in Old Norse.)

Freyr was the god of fertility, harvesting and weather, all in one nice package. As such he had a secondary effect on the appearance of Sól and Máni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A belated thanks for explaining the observational difficulties involved.</p>
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Freyr
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<p>Likely wrong and an especially bad example of sun worship. <a href="http://books.google.se/books?id=KlT7tv3eMSwC&amp;pg=PA99&amp;lpg=PA99&amp;dq=aesir+belief+sun&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=scOGiMqr5a&amp;sig=jo55DwvG8L-uPtqDgyZ0ON8qskg&amp;hl=sv&amp;ei=80GmSvThINqJsAbGreTSBA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=5#v=onepage&amp;q=sun&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">Aesir belief wasn&#8217;t particularly interested in the sun and seldom personified it, as opposed to earlier mythology.</a> </p>
<p>After all, their creation belief is refreshingly simple:</p>
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According to the Prose Edda, Odin, the first and most powerful of the Aesir, was a son of a giant (Bor) and a giantess (Bestla), who, along with his brothers Ve and Vili, cast down the terrible frost giant Ymir. From his corpse, the three created the cosmos, transmuting his various body parts into sky, seas, and land:</p>
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    From Ymir&#8217;s flesh, the brothers made the earth, and from his shattered bones and teeth they made the rocks and stones. From Ymir&#8217;s blood, they made the rivers and lakes. Ymir&#8217;s skull was made into the sky, secured at four points by four dwarfs named Nordi, Sudri, Austri, and Westri (North, South, East, and West). And from Ymir&#8217;s brains, they shaped the clouds and Ymir&#8217;s eyebrows became Midgard, the place where men now dwell.[12]
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<p>In this account, Odin and his brothers are also attributed with creating mankind from hollow logs. In doing so, Odin first gave them breath and life; Vili gave them brains and feelings; and Ve gave them hearing and sight. The first man was named Ask and the first woman was Embla, and from them all families of mankind are descended. [<a href="http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Odin" rel="nofollow">New World Encyclopedia</a>]
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<p>The norse stories that named the sun was <i>Vafthrúdinismál and Snorre&#8217;s </i><i>Gylfaginning</i>. [See the first link.] In both, <i>Mundilfaeri</i> had the &#8220;daughter&#8221; Sól and the &#8220;son&#8221; Máni. (Sun respectively Moon in Old Norse.)</p>
<p>Freyr was the god of fertility, harvesting and weather, all in one nice package. As such he had a secondary effect on the appearance of Sól and Máni.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith - Astronomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith - Astronomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing I like better than setting up the Coronado and watching the Sun progress through the day, and lucky you lives at altitude. Last time I was that high, around 9,500ft up Yosemite it didn&#039;t do my brain any good, nor the engine in the hire car by the sound of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing I like better than setting up the Coronado and watching the Sun progress through the day, and lucky you lives at altitude. Last time I was that high, around 9,500ft up Yosemite it didn&#8217;t do my brain any good, nor the engine in the hire car by the sound of it!</p>
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